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Post by Detroit Pistons on Aug 25, 2009 6:21:50 GMT -5
Wizards Send:
(90)Gilbert Arenas $16,192,080 - $17,730,694 - $19,269,308 - $20,807,922 (PO) (84)Marcus Camby $7,650,000
Total: $23,842,208
Pistons Send:
(86)Richard Hamilton $11,375,000 (80)Travis Outlaw $4,000,000
Total: $15,375,000
Warriors Send: (98)Kevin Garnett $16,400,000 - $18,800,000 - $21,200,000 (87)Andris Biedrins $9,000,000 - $9,000,000 - $9,000,000 - $9,000,000 - $9,000,000 (PO) (85)Monta Ellis $11,000,000 - $11,000,000 - $11,000,000 - $11,000,000 - $11,000,000 (PO)
Total: $36,400,000
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Wizards Receive: (85)Monta Ellis $11,000,000 - $11,000,000 - $11,000,000 - $11,000,000 - $11,000,000 (PO) (87)Andris Biedrins $9,000,000 - $9,000,000 - $9,000,000 - $9,000,000 - $9,000,000 (PO) Total: $20,000,000
Pistons Receive: (98)Kevin Garnett $16,400,000 - $18,800,000 - $21,200,000 Total: $16,400,000
Warriors Receive: (90)Gilbert Arenas $16,192,080 - $17,730,694 - $19,269,308 - $20,807,922 (PO) (86)Richard Hamilton $11,375,000 (84)Marcus Camby $7,650,000 (80)Travis Outlaw $4,000,000 Total: $39,217,080
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Aug 25, 2009 6:28:58 GMT -5
I accept. The Wizards approached me to ask if i was willing to give up certain expirings for a 3-way trade. So after some discussion, I found out that the Warriors was psyched about next year's Free Agency and he wanted to collect expirings so as to be a contender the next post season. He was unwilling to trade KG at first, but RIP's $11mil salary was too attractive for him and apparantly Outlaw helped sweeten things abit too. And Voila! Woohoo GO Pistons!!
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Post by Washington Wizards on Aug 25, 2009 7:13:45 GMT -5
I accept .
I have Joe Johnson as my main scorer so i do not need Gilbert Arenas anymore. Monta Elis is able to cover up for the role of Gilbert Arenas as he is more of a team player and ball-hog less often.I do not mind giving up an all star player for an upcoming one.I get a better and younger centre in Andris Biedrins in this trade as well. So it's a lousier Point Guard but a better Centre and I get to free up about 3.8m of cap space.
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Post by Dallas Mavericks on Aug 25, 2009 10:12:39 GMT -5
I guess I accept...GSW loses alot of young talent
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Post by Phoenix Suns on Aug 25, 2009 11:31:29 GMT -5
Pistons are getting KG for Rip Hamilton? wow
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Aug 26, 2009 8:23:37 GMT -5
Hi all.i accept. given the current roster of my team,i dont think i will be able to go too far in the league without any first rnd picks. Looking thru the salaries,this potential trade helps me to free up about 23m and u guys know the rest(hints free agents) kevin garnett is great but i am willing to let him go in the hope to sign younger stars with amazing potential.wish me luck fellow GM. Oh and i really like arenas and he will bring life into warriors next season.
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Post by New York Knicks on Aug 26, 2009 19:41:01 GMT -5
Pistons are getting KG for Rip Hamilton? wow This is the part of the deal really making me think...I'm not really ready to accept or reject just yet.
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Post by Washington Wizards on Aug 27, 2009 4:24:38 GMT -5
im sure GSW has a very good reason to do so. i also would like to hear his explanation on this.
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Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Aug 27, 2009 9:22:29 GMT -5
GSW is losing too much on this I feel. After getting KG by trading away half of his high potential young players, he moves Garnett again and loses more young talent in Monta and Biedrins. The only part I don't like about this is GSW giving KG, Ellis and Biedrins while only really getting Arenas and Rip back. I don't rate Outlaw and no one is even willing to take Camby IRL.
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Post by Dallas Mavericks on Aug 27, 2009 10:02:41 GMT -5
I'm gonna change mine to a reject. Outlaw + Rip does not equal Garnett. At all.
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Aug 27, 2009 12:15:42 GMT -5
wow lots of replies mostly negative. But hear me out ok. although kg is way better to rip and outlaw combined, but their contracts are expiring unlike kg. Camby is the same as well. Camby is unwanted irl yes but in the simulation it is different and i plan to use him only for a season. In this trade,i get a pretty decent one season team. Kg is a hall of famer no doubt but i do not want an old team. and with the likes of so many players expiring like sun's nash amare and wiz johnson i feel i will have an advantage outbidding. wizards dont say i never warn u. we may be pals but ill never hesistate to get joe johnson. but then in order for this to work, i need to emphasize again i need kg to be traded away as i simply find it near impossible to progress with him.if we compare about individuals,yes definitely not a gd deal.but im doing it for the team sake. Hope you all can see my point of view.I feel it is a risk im willing to take. and yes i really arenas and i feel he will bring warriors to glory.
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Post by New York Knicks on Aug 27, 2009 17:39:35 GMT -5
I understand that general POV GSW, but you are still not getting the value (even considering salaries) that is needed for KG. It's just not working for me.
I'm rejecting.
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Aug 27, 2009 20:06:10 GMT -5
OOH the Big Daddies are all getting angry.
Lets see. Okay i know what u guys are thinking. I think this trade is nuts if u simply look at the ratings. he's losing a lot but GSW knows what he's doing. He has a plan up his sleeve and so do Wizards and I. Guys u gotta respect that. 3 of our teams didnt do too well this season because of what the previous owners did (or simply didn't do) to some of the teams. Now we want to try out something big and hopefully be Champions(not only the next but many more ahead) we're not a 1 season teams. we intend to play on for a few seasons at least if things go great for us.
No offense to all those good teams out there (especially Charlotte. U're my buddy man im proud that ur team did great) but come on, we want to win as well. We follow strictly to the rules and everything else, even explained our combat strategy for the next post season (which is a huge risk since we let the cat out of the bag, and now we know that the other teams will make certain changes in their roster so that they can re-sign their star players) which is equal to stabbing ourselves straight up in the face
And u guys think that RIP & outlaw doesnt equate to Garnett? I beg to differ(and im not saying this just to convince u. Charlotte u should know, i told u KG is overrated LOOONG before this trade). I absolutely think KG is overrated and dont know why he's still rated so high when he's definitely far from what he used to be in 04 & 05. His ratings will dip no matter what due to his injury for half a season IRL. And its really subjective what everyone thinks since we value players differently. Furthermore the trades are not for shortterm. we look at players in the long run and i dont know why RIP isnt nearly as good as what u guys think. He's AMAZING for his age all of u have to admit(20+ppg)? hes way better than KGs (18PPG) and that is just points alone. Maybe u guys ought to think if u're still stuck in the 04/05 period of Garnett's form. Cos obviously he doesnt play like that anymore
Well im done here. Seriously, i hope u guys change ur mind about this very very subjective topic that shouldnt be seen as ratings trade where a (98) is traded for (86) and (80).
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Post by New Orleans Hornets on Aug 27, 2009 23:40:58 GMT -5
I also reject
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Aug 28, 2009 1:01:54 GMT -5
like i mentioned pls think further ahead.if this trade goes through, i still have a playoff contender team with arenas rip as guards, camby as centre, sf outlaw, pf corey.all are playoff materials. My bench players are not too bad as well.as u guys know, i am a great arenas fan and i would like to build a team arnd him and not kg. i simply dont understand previous owner trading so many talents away for kg whom i feel that his prime is over. I know what im doing and i hope u guys will accept this trade.
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