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Post by Washington Wizards on Sept 6, 2009 22:43:25 GMT -5
Wizards get: Nate Robinson 87 2,911,077 James Harden Jordan Hill
Total In: $19,192,080 Total Out: $2,911,077
Grizzlies get: Gilbert Arenas 90 $16,192,080 $17,730,694 $19,269,308 $20,807,922 $22,346,536 Andray Blatche 74 $3,000,000 $3,260,331 $3,520,661 $0 $0 Wiz 2010 1st rnd pick
Total In: $2,911,077 Total Out: $19,192,080
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Post by Memphis Grizzlies on Sept 6, 2009 22:50:24 GMT -5
i accept
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Post by Washington Wizards on Sept 7, 2009 0:39:04 GMT -5
i accept. I get two potential rising stars for an all star player.
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Post by Dallas Mavericks on Sept 7, 2009 21:24:30 GMT -5
I'm sorry but I think that Memphis is trading way too much...Harden is a GREAT rookie who will do big things, Jordan Hill isn't a superstar player but hes a lottery pick and good role-playing big man(eventually). Nate Robinson is a good player, despite his size. He's overrated in 2k9 (he's an 87), but he plays like an 87 in the game so he's got the value of an 87. Memphis is giving up two lottery picks and a great young player for an injury riddled guard and a ton of more salary. I think this trade would be fine if either Jordan Hill or James Harden was taken out
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Post by Washington Wizards on Sept 7, 2009 22:20:16 GMT -5
just discussed about this and i've added 2010 1st rnd pick in to sweeten this trade up.
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Post by New York Knicks on Sept 7, 2009 22:38:07 GMT -5
I'll accept this one.
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Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Sept 8, 2009 2:16:53 GMT -5
I actually think the Grizzlies win big in this. Arenas might be injury-prone but he seems to be fitter now than he's been in the past few years. And Nate is super overrated at 87. But Harden should be a top player soon, and Hill might be....
I'll accept this.
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Post by Dallas Mavericks on Sept 8, 2009 9:54:19 GMT -5
Yes nate is super-overrated but the fact of the matter is he plays almost as good as arenas in the game. I'll see what some other CM's have to say if they agree with Charlotte I'll change my vote.
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Post by New York Knicks on Sept 8, 2009 10:00:39 GMT -5
I basically agree with Charlotte too. When I looked at it, I saw...
Hill = Blatche. Both are young, both are PF/C. Both have lots of upside and talent, both have a lot to prove still. Blatche has shown some more in the actual NBA already, but generally those two are pretty even for me.
Then you get Gilbert Arenas and a 1st for harden and nate? Big win for Memphis IMO. Especially considering, if I were to choose between blatche/hill, I would choose Blatche as he's proven things in the NBA already.
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Post by Washington Wizards on Sept 8, 2009 10:22:55 GMT -5
i have confidence in jordan hill and james haden and yeah i feel this trade is sided more towards memphis after i added the pick.
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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Sept 8, 2009 11:17:48 GMT -5
I approve.
even if Arenas is injured he is still good, the pick is a little bit excess but needed, and Blatche is good when he's head is in game.
Harden is solid, N. Robinson is kinda overrated with the ratings, and I don't think much of Jordan Hill I think he's the most overrated player in this year's draft by far.
Harden<<Arenas Robinson>>>>pick Hill<<<<<<Blatche
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Post by Dallas Mavericks on Sept 8, 2009 16:53:38 GMT -5
Ok I see where y'all are coming from. I was looking at it like this:
Nate (87)<Gilbert (90) Harden>>Blatche Hill>Probable Mid-to-late first round pick
I know you aren't supposed to take ratings as the sole incentive behind roster moves, but when someone is as overrated as Nate, you have to take his improved rating into account at least to some degree. Harden is solid player who I see being an eventual all-star. He is the kind of player that would do great in a sim league. Blatche is great and young, but I have a feeling he may not reach his full potential. Hill was drafted too high, but he is still a lottery pick which is more valuable than a probable mid-to-late round pick.
I'm not trying to change your minds, I'm just letting you guys know where I'm coming from.
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Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Sept 9, 2009 9:22:35 GMT -5
Yeah I think this is an acceptable trade. I wont do it if I were the Wizards, but it can be a very good deal for them if Harden becomes an allstar and Hill is at least gonna be servicable, and Agent Zero continue to be as injury-prone as ever.
But the word here is IF. Not so much for me to decline though. So I stand by my decision to accept.
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